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Chrysler's hybrid SUVs pull in near front of pack Friday, August 08, 2008
USA Today -- Chrysler is late to the hybrid party but brought along two full-size SUV hybrids arguably better than those sold by rival General Motors (GM), even though the companies' hybrid systems are alike. Chrysler's Dodge Durango and Chrysler Aspen gasoline-electric power plants, along with GM's Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon hybrid SUVs launched in January, give full-size, truck-based SUVs a fighting chance with 20 miles per gallon, instead of 15 or fewer. Called two-mode hybrids, they use two electric motors, packaged inside the automatic transmission housing and mated to a big gasoline V-8 engine. One electric motor is for lower speeds, the other for higher.
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	Friday, August 08, 2008 USA Today -- Chrysler is late to the hybrid party but brought along two full-size SUV hybrids arguably better than those sold by rival General Motors (GM), even though the companies' hybrid systems are alike. Chrysler's Dodge Durango and Chrysler Aspen gasoline-electric power plants, along with GM's Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon hybrid SUVs launched in January, give full-size, truck-based SUVs a fighting chance with 20 miles per gallon, instead of 15 or fewer. Called two-mode hybrids, they use two electric motors, packaged inside the automatic transmission housing and mated to a big gasoline V-8 engine. One electric motor is for lower speeds, the other for higher. Visit USA Today for full article

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mini55 Rookie Author Florida Posts:11 Points:3,030 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 6:59:27 PM	Ignore mini55 Report Abuse
	Glad I'm driving a mini.
kingdick Champion Author Minnesota Posts:18,091 Points:1,453,670 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 6:03:00 PM	Ignore kingdick Report Abuse
	---------------------------------- As I always Say !!! ----------------------------------- If gas prices go back down most people will go BACK to their WASTEFULL ways. Like 1974 !! They will buy the BIG trucks again !! ----------------------------------- Price down Now Demand is back up !! -----------------------------------
jmuse All-Star Author Long Island Posts:559 Points:116,575 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 12:48:04 PM	Ignore jmuse Report Abuse
	Late to the party, is an understatement.
Nannabug Rookie Author Georgia Posts:83 Points:33,100 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 12:04:55 PM	Ignore Nannabug Report Abuse
	But to people who can afford over $50,000 for a vehicle, maybe even more than one per home, $4 gas is probably not that much of an issue.
magnumCA All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:934 Points:193,425 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:54:36 AM	Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse
	as they should
gas_too_high Veteran Author Columbus Posts:357 Points:320,405 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:42:41 AM	Ignore gas_too_high Report Abuse
	no1doc: Exactly right. [Edited by: gas_too_high at 8/9/2008 11:42:58 AM EST]
no1doc Veteran Author Milwaukee Posts:308 Points:92,350 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:40:03 AM	Ignore no1doc Report Abuse
	Hybrid SUV is an oxymoron if ever there was one. Kind of like jumbo shrimp.
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,175 Points:124,110 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:14:59 AM	Ignore reb4 Report Abuse
	20MPG... WOW! I don't think i'm interested.
t4204life Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,942 Points:785,285 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:09:55 AM	Ignore t4204life Report Abuse
	not for me.
Don20 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,164 Points:940,880 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:04:48 AM	Ignore Don20 Report Abuse
	Don't think I want one of these yet..
Bungee All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:507 Points:323,245 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:03:03 AM	Ignore Bungee Report Abuse
	Still not for me, but I agree with what MarkJND said.
RWPTraveller All-Star Author Virginia Posts:561 Points:309,050 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:59:18 AM	Ignore RWPTraveller Report Abuse
	Not much of an improvement.
Gassie1 Champion Author Akron Posts:4,020 Points:491,385 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:55:03 AM	Ignore Gassie1 Report Abuse
	20 mpg not bad
MarkJND All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:707 Points:252,675 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:54:50 AM	Ignore MarkJND Report Abuse
	There will always be a market for these cars, so at least they are doing what they can to make them more efficient.
bowler48226 All-Star Author Detroit Posts:900 Points:263,520 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:50:14 AM	Ignore bowler48226 Report Abuse
	Chrysler has always been an engine leader. Remember when the hemi was in race cars and nobody could beat it so they took the hemi out of race cars.
evasilion Veteran Author Virginia Beach Posts:370 Points:74,670 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:49:27 AM	Ignore evasilion Report Abuse
	Sounds a little complicated.
02SilverStroke All-Star Author Dallas Posts:859 Points:437,780 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:48:35 AM	Ignore 02SilverStroke Report Abuse
	It seems that with the engines now being controlled by computers, the companies could program them to get 50 mpg, minimum. If you can buy chips for diesel pickups that increase their power and mileage, why not install something like that at the factory?
brutus Champion Author Alberta Posts:1,382 Points:862,955 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:48:30 AM	Ignore brutus Report Abuse
	A little late, Toyota and Honda way ahead.
BANANAMAN22 Sophomore Author Houston Posts:165 Points:33,975 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:46:37 AM	Ignore BANANAMAN22 Report Abuse
	STILL DON'T KNOW IF ITS WORTH IT
hangupanddrive Veteran Author Michigan Posts:456 Points:867,285 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:45:16 AM	Ignore hangupanddrive Report Abuse
	Sign of the times. Alternatives if and when we actually find the need to buy a new car. Not selling my cars not worth it spending over $20,000 to save a few gallons.
Parif Veteran Author Virginia Posts:478 Points:85,790 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:41:32 AM	Ignore Parif Report Abuse
	We still like our big cars
kenya32 Sophomore Author Pennsylvania Posts:196 Points:122,890 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:40:22 AM	Ignore kenya32 Report Abuse
	I am glad to see the automakers trying to do the right things now, but 20 miles per gallon is still too low.
FastAndy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,429 Points:416,660 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:39:56 AM	Ignore FastAndy Report Abuse
	Are they (GM & Chrysler) really trying to build high efficient vehicles now or are they just trying to get the people to buy these reworked big high profit SUV's.
fromdarange All-Star Author Minnesota Posts:819 Points:194,385 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:37:52 AM	Ignore fromdarange Report Abuse
	More of yesterday's news.
YLHandyman All-Star Author Orange County Posts:930 Points:153,740 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:37:16 AM	Ignore YLHandyman Report Abuse
	What are the costs of these hybrids in the long run. Do they still guarantee $2.99 a gallon.
Somis1 Champion Author Ventura Posts:4,480 Points:993,450 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:34:10 AM	Ignore Somis1 Report Abuse
	Chrysler? Whatever, but think how much better results they'd get in reasonably sized cars.
laddyboy62 Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,205 Points:920,110 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:33:23 AM	Ignore laddyboy62 Report Abuse
	gm...ford...just keep getting out gunned...wake up already
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:8,090 Points:644,885 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:32:38 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	15MPG to 20MPG? why bother..............
ladyjj All-Star Author Tennessee Posts:792 Points:86,590 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:30:58 AM	Ignore ladyjj Report Abuse
	I don't think this is the answer either!
rtw777 All-Star Author Florida Posts:528 Points:142,560 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:22:58 AM	Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse
	Got to do better than this.
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:1,618 Points:1,200,055 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:21:14 AM	Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse
	old news
rockinrog All-Star Author Ontario Posts:509 Points:610,900 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:16:54 AM	Ignore rockinrog Report Abuse
	Going form 15mpg to 20mpg sounds like it is hardly worth the effort. I'm sure they can produce a better mpg vehicule than 20.
cantonbill Veteran Author Atlanta Posts:403 Points:108,625 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:16:18 AM	Ignore cantonbill Report Abuse
	So many people buy SUVs they just don't need. Even at 20mpg, that's a disgrace.
PizzaMon Sophomore Author Philadelphia Posts:160 Points:297,925 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:15:35 AM	Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse
	Something for those who really need that type of vehicle.
kevski All-Star Author Oregon Posts:973 Points:130,400 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:14:37 AM	Ignore kevski Report Abuse
	better than nothing
cableman31 Veteran Author New York Posts:396 Points:355,690 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:12:50 AM	Ignore cableman31 Report Abuse
	20 mpg is a waste of time. We had that and more years ago. And why do we need big suv's and tahoes. In places like NYC there is no place to park them.
CrazyQ Champion Author Washington Posts:11,962 Points:1,386,425 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:12:36 AM	Ignore CrazyQ Report Abuse
	Don't forget that hybrid technology has a hard cost of $3,500 or more per vehicle, and that pays for a lot of miles, even at $4/gal. If you can purchase a non-hybrid vehicle for a savings in excess of $4,000 over the hybrid model, you're coming out ahead.
kingdick Champion Author Minnesota Posts:18,091 Points:1,453,670 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:12:24 AM	Ignore kingdick Report Abuse
	----------------------------------- As I always Say !!! ----------------------------------- If gas prices go back down most people will go BACK to their WASTEFULL ways. Like 1974 !! They will buy the BIG trucks again !! ----------------------------------- Price down Now Demand is back up !! -----------------------------------
DAM5 Sophomore Author Long Island Posts:223 Points:66,940 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:09:20 AM	Ignore DAM5 Report Abuse
	really
Outie All-Star Author New Brunswick Posts:803 Points:463,975 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:06:11 AM	Ignore Outie Report Abuse
	To0 little too late.
Dipstick1 Champion Author Texas Posts:1,360 Points:755,010 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:05:39 AM	Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse
	We got 20mpg 40 years ago
rbrowdersr All-Star Author Detroit Posts:588 Points:396,285 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:04:02 AM	Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse
	It appears that Chrysler still hasn't learned.
dopster Veteran Author Toledo Posts:455 Points:822,755 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 10:03:20 AM	Ignore dopster Report Abuse
	techque is right. Doesn't sund like a viable solution to me.
techque Veteran Author St. Louis Posts:315 Points:888,930 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:59:01 AM	Ignore techque Report Abuse
	For $45 thousand, I can get two thrifty cars that get twice the MPG, and handle and park way better. no thanks.
BBopp All-Star Author Dayton Posts:931 Points:485,195 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:57:08 AM	Ignore BBopp Report Abuse
	Chrysler should work on the "air car". How stupid does Chrysler think the consumers are? Sorry but 20 mpg just doesn't cut it.
kypeanuts Veteran Author Louisville Posts:323 Points:69,230 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:56:33 AM	Ignore kypeanuts Report Abuse
	yesterday's news
Raider44 Sophomore Author Allentown Posts:193 Points:84,415 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:54:49 AM	Ignore Raider44 Report Abuse
	Need to develop vehicles that get 50+ mpg, not twenty.
bug27 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,593 Points:1,100,175 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:53:44 AM	Ignore bug27 Report Abuse
	I was hoping full size SUV's were a relic of the past. American automakers are going to fight to the death. Well, let them die. We can't help someone who won't help themselves.
phatride92 Champion Author Kansas Posts:3,372 Points:865,200 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:52:32 AM	Ignore phatride92 Report Abuse
	hummmmmmmm
Road_Fever Champion Author West Virginia Posts:4,140 Points:729,045 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 9:51:56 AM	Ignore Road_Fever Report Abuse
	People want'em.