BillA

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 11:17:06 PM
Gas demand in the Northwest U.S. is the lowest its been since the late 1960s!
The point of reference is a Mastercard statement that more people are CHARGING for gas...
Truth is, demand is down. Less people have CASH at the gas station.
[Edited by: BillA at 7/5/2009 11:18:30 PM EST]
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 10:20:38 PM
Gee_NY: depends which camp you belong to.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:59:55 AM
I guess if you look long and hard enough, you can make a case for either direction. Telling lies with statistics.. a fun thing to do
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:59:17 AM
funny, business insider says "demand at a high" and other articles posted on this forum say "demand hits low points". Hmmm....
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:57:14 AM
probably just a temporary fluke.
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DABEE1073

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:50:11 AM
ITS OBAMA'S FAULT.
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must87searcher

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:43:35 AM
The price of gas maybe down, but the number of unemployed are still going up. That ccold produce a worry for some, as well as having more people go out to look for new employers.
The price maybe down now, but it won't stay down for too long.
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VDubBill

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:27:31 AM
Drive now, pay later. Where's my card?
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psuray

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:19:02 AM
And we are to believe a banking institution!
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techque

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:16:03 AM
this from an industry wipe . . .
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jd2009

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:06:40 AM
With the economy down ... more people are using their credit cards, instead of cash ... gas prices are still rising over here
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Gordon56

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:05:13 AM
Probably all the people out looking for jobs, and charging the gas because they do not have cash left to pay for it.
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jackson661

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:04:26 AM
This is not a good thing because prices will rise with demand.
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cincindie

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:03:30 AM
Don't see it on the roads though.
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cableman31

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:03:13 AM
Good to see people getting out.
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vabites

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:02:15 AM
that's funny the two stories above this one speak of oil demand at record lows...who picks this crap?
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marinasgrandpa

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:59:10 AM
we are our own worst enemy-the more we use the higher the price
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Yonkers111

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Scranton
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:58:49 AM
Most people realize that fuels are currently cheap.
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winggnutt

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:56:44 AM
what to believe?
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lightbulbman2008

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:56:19 AM
does this apply to the law of supply vs demand?
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PrepHermit

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:55:30 AM
Maybe MasterCard's sales are higher for gasoline because people are using their credit cards more to purchase things since they don't have the cash. Sounds like incomplete data to me.
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DerHahn

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:53:40 AM
BS. inventories are highs never seen before.
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bumpygas

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:52:06 AM
Who is paying the news media to write this stuff?
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cudatim

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:51:39 AM
With all the contradiction about gas supplies vs demand it seems stories are made up just to suit the current feeling of the news media.
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TECH500

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:49:40 AM
Hold on tight, because pump prices are about to sky rocket soon.
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mike2scooter

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:47:10 AM
The news media speaks with a forked tongue(but that's nothing new) I just heard a report that people are traveling much less this year than last, even with the lower gas prices this year. It would seem the recession is keeping people home,whom might otherwise travel this holiday week-end. The report said that was the reason prices are at least staying steady or even dropping a little, because demand is down. What report does one believe?
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hoof11

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:45:55 AM
Don't YouThink That Cheaper Gas From Last Summer Would Have At Least 1.6 Percent More Drivers Who Pays For These Stupid Reports
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jb107

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:45:14 AM
It's vacation time and prices are down from last year.
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Tundralimited2009

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:44:55 AM
We Love our Trucks!
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KillChain

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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:42:39 AM
Yes, a credit card company sets the demand....HA!
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jony

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:41:48 AM
That's so true "Loveee"
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OleMiss79

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:40:57 AM
We must keep conserving -- reduce driving, stay home instead of taking a vacation (if you can afford one) and combine trips. No joy riding at all.
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Lovelee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:39:23 AM
What? Has the press been lying to us? Of course not, they just didn't tell us everything.
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Gas Slave

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:36:44 AM
It doesn't feel better now.
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fordfan1

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:36:26 AM
Look out for a big jump in the prices at the pump!
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madison8359

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:28:45 AM
Yes but 18 months ago we were in the depths of a serious oil speculation that had gas at all time highs, in the middle of an economic depression and W was still lost.
Now things are just a little bit better.
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turbosaab

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:28:37 AM
Why is this surprising? Gas is relatively cheap and this is the time of year that many of us take to the roads. They are reporting an increase of only 1.6% over last year when prices were much higher.
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Gonner4332

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:26:54 AM
Sounds to me like they are trying to justify the price of gas? I don't know anyone who is driving as much as they use to
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rgjoslin

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:23:37 AM
So prices will go up... Right?
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nb52

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:23:10 AM
Ask the unemployed how much gas they are purchasing.
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fltdoc

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:22:59 AM
"with the price of gas low". Who really feels that the price is low? This author must not have been around in the 60s or 70s.
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:22:32 AM
Hard to believe it's back up there that high considering I see less cars on the road these days around here. Fewer people driving because of no job, not enough money, etc. Makes me wonder if they're just faking the numbers now.
You're right on the money Jeepp! Granma3xnow, they can get the mileage of your vehicle up more too! Others are doing it. Glad they fixed it for you.
[Edited by: LanguageMan1 at 7/4/2009 8:24:16 AM EST]
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Jeepp

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Boston
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:22:21 AM
We need to keep conserving. Many people have no choice, no job, no money.
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granma3xnow

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:21:04 AM
A relative fixed the fuel problem on my car and now I get about 27-29 mpg. I am NOT buying more gas this year, I am buying LESS. (but now my car won't qualify for $$ for clunkers)
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Skipper52

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:21:03 AM
It's not that we are buying more gas. It's we are charging more gas because we can afford to pay for it. And that is very bad. What a poorly conceive article.
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Badmoon

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:20:50 AM
I don't believe it.
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MightyDude

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:20:37 AM
here we go again
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BartBuzz

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:20:03 AM
This article proves that you can get any result you want by playing with the numbers. The law of supply and demand seems to be broken.
Keep conserving.
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SE3.5

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:19:28 AM
Maybe people who used to pay cash for gas don't have any cash, so they are charging their gas on credit cards that they will not be able to pay because they don't have jobs.
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ttwiw

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:19:16 AM
Shhhhh! The oil futures traders might hear you!
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