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Shocker: Conservative Fox News Guest Tears Up Conservative Lies About Chevy Volt

Clean Technica -- Their conservative guest, Lee Spieckerman, CEO of Spieckerman Media, a self-described “drill, baby, drill guy,” debunks every single right-wing myth about the Volt, noting:
I love Fox news, and I feel like I’m kind of attacking my own family here. I love O’Reilly, I love Neil Cavuto, I love Eric Bolling, but like a lot of my fellow conservative, they seem to have kind of a fetish for demonizing the Volt.
They are perpetuating the myth that the Volt was some kind of Obama administration green energy fantasy that as you say was forced on General Motors during the bailout.
It’d been in development two years before Obama was elected. And it was championed by… Bob Lutz, who is a conservative and a climate change skeptic. So you know it’s a myth.


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1006
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 6:42:57 AM

you have the idea
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 7:42:35 AM

Blame everyone (but themselves)
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1006
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 7:41:26 AM

the crap is flying . enough blame to go around
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 12:35:08 AM

Gnusman53: "after the GOP crashed the economy, all credit froze..."
ROTFL! Now there's a totally baseless statement. Gnusman53, I'm guessing you have little or no experience when it comes to financial/investment matters. Am I correct? BTW, investing in mutual funds doesn't count as real investment experience.

"As to why not selling more"
That's because the Volt has smaller capacity (strictly 4 seater and less trunk space) compared to it's rivals, and yet it's price is higher. The potential cost savings from less gasoline usage will take a long time, in most cases, to pay off the higher cost differential.
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 8:19:57 PM

Clermont40miles, LOL, you obviously hit the liberals nerves! Great post!

None have answer for this:

Comparing Volt to an F-250 and an Escalade? REALLY?

Try this:
Total cost to own a Honda Accord for 5 years $41,219
Sticker price for a Honda Accord 2012 LX Premium $23,180.

And you'll get a lot more car with the Honda Accord.

Some people will do most anything to prop up this joke called the Volt.
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 10:31:41 AM

Some of the issue is probably... "I'm talking about what I know." and "I don't know what the VOLT really is..." so if it's more expensive then a regular ICE vehicle and means I have to install a charger in my Garage or run an extension cord to it once and a while... well that's so inconvenient.

Plus, Somehow people complain about "Coal" (Dirty Power Plants) but don't seem to have any problem with all the "Vampire" Devices living in their homes... not to mention forgetting to turn off the Lights/Fans when not in a room. Add to that lame ideas like US Senator Tom Coburn "hoarding" 100 Watt light bulbs because he somehow can't "see" with an alternative bulb.

Poor guy hasn't heard of newer LED light fixtures/bulbs while a bit expensive up front but perform almost identically to an Incandescent Bulb (Dimmable, Full Spectrum Incandescent Bright light) saves MEGA money by using virtually no power and can last for Decades.

Barring that Senator Coburn doesn't realize that there are newer Incandescent Bulbs replacing the traditional 100Watt etc. that use less power while still provide that "Traditional" feel.

Until people realize the Volt is just another example of the Future and let go of the old ways... Hybrids like the Volt will remain expensive and less adopted then the "Popular" choice... not because it's "better" but because it's what you "know".
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 7:17:13 AM

I'd still buy a Fusion hybrid before a Volt. I believe they're cheaper.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 11:08:07 PM

think twice
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 3:22:07 PM

gatekeepertwo - Excellent question. If conservatives are so patriotic, why do they promote dependence on foreign oil sources, instead of promoting conservation and development of new sources of energy that will strengthen this country?

Or is it just that they can't stand that a Democratic president might get some of the credit?

Though us4usa also has some good points. Why is GM apparently so incompetent at designing decent cars anymore? Maybe they need to get rid of ALL of their top management.

clermont40miles - "EV's trade oil burning to coal burning. With the greenie EPA shutting down coal fired power plants, the price and availability for electric power will "necessarily skyrocket."

Except that we've got plentiful and cheap natural gas to replace coal. Not to mention solar, wind and other renewable sources.

Not to mention that the Volt is a hybrid, not a pure electric. So its range is only limited by the amount of gas in its tank, just like any standard car.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 1:14:59 PM

Thank you for posting.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 8:05:39 AM

Maybe clermont has heard about something called the sun. Solar arrays have been used to power up EVs for awhile now.....

About five years ago I remember seeing a retiree convert a VW bug to be an EV..... and use a solar array to recharge it..... AND THAT was in Seattle.

And in some places, the primary source of power is hydroelectric....

Some electric utilities are even offering the choice of power generated from renewable sources......
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 7:55:40 AM

BTW..... complaints about Volt "range" is a joke. Since you could drive one across the country.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 7:52:25 AM

As to why not selling more...... easy.... after the GOP crashed the economy, all credit froze... (and that includes credit for buying a car).... it is just starting to barely loosen..... but credit is still a big problem...

Simply, car purchases have been like a hose with someone parking a car ontop..... water still comes out of the hose.....but not as much as there should if the car wasn't on the hose.....

BTW, Caddys and Corvettes cost more... than the Volt.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 7:46:28 AM

So far, there has been no "spontaneous" ignitions/fires in a Volt on the road.

ONLY reported cases are in a holding lot after the Volt was TOTALLED in crash tests.......
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 7:43:51 AM

Now for some facts......

Volt was not intended to replace pick ups or suburbans.....(although Newty discovered there are gun racks for them)....
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 7:40:45 AM

So clermont thinks a foxlover is an evil double agent... but then forgets to note that even the feckless himbo clown from F&F was agreeing with him.... (grin)
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 7:35:32 AM

so many factless Faux fetishists floundering in their fantasies here (grin)
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:55:23 AM

The discussion has been very rich.

The Fox News bashing brought to you by Clean Technica, Think Progress and Climate Progress -- and supported here by the same.

EV's trade oil burning to coal burning. With the greenie EPA shutting down coal fired power plants, the price and availability for electric power will "necessarily skyrocket."

EV's are totally incapable of replacing internal combustion engines cost effectively on a large scale. They are specialty cars. The price and limitations are clear for those who choose to see.

The emperor has no clothes.

Green is red.

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 2:27:29 AM

us4usa: Very good post.
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 12:37:54 AM

The odd fact is they only sold 7,xxx , if this car is that great one would think it should sell... Sure you can say Fox is to blame, but there are more fox haters then 7,xxx supporting the volt... The numbers do not add up, lets say EVeryone that likes fox , votes Red or lives in a red state hates the volt... Then look at EVeryone that haters fox votes blue or lives in a blue state loves the volt... So where are all the lovers and supporters for the volt, not at the dealers buying them???

Maybe this car is so great its not ready for prime time???

Next year only 7,xxx out of MILLIONS of people, why???

What could it be???

Look at some facts about this car.
$39K and up
four seater
35 miles EV range
32 MPG gas
Premium gas required

If the goal is to go green...
Toyota Prius "V" REGULAR gas $26-$29K MPG 41...
EV LEAF 90 mile range $35-37K...
And screw OPEC I'm all in...

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 12:16:15 AM

I had a similar question as Bob Lutz who is responsible for the Chevy Volt. Why do conservatives think it is a liberal idea to get away from the jerks in the Middle East and in Venezuela who like bashing us while gouging us with high prices? It should be that whatever makes America great and independent is conservative. The knock against liberal ideology is that it favors policies that reduce independence and reduce the motivation to get off of handouts. So if we make better non-gas vehicles in the future is that not a conservative idea?
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 12:15:09 AM

DUMB te best cheapest= free source of heat waste heat from the internal combustion engine.The Volt uses the battery to heat seats but with the high price an oldfashioned heater from the cooling of the internal combustion engine is not included in the Volt desigm!
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 12:03:30 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:58:25 PM

Fox noise can go to hell as far as I am concerned. This propaganda spewing so called News organization has no credibility on just about every issue the American people value.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:57:52 PM

I too am tired of all the criticism for the Chevy Volt
Like the article states
Design was started long before obama was elected
The tax credit was approved while G.W. Bush was in office put in
The GM bailout was approved while G.W. Bush was in office
The Volt is not for everybody and it is overpriced
But as a second car for a family for commuting to work and school it can suffice
Hopefully the price will come down and the range will increase
and I am a conservative who voted for G.W.Bush
and I did not vote nor will I vote for Obama
But lets stick to facts and stop the name calling etc
The far left screams this then the far right screams that and nothing gets done
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:55:39 PM

He can have the credit for it..
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:54:49 PM

DustyHorse:

Exactly!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:53:43 PM

The Volt is garbage.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:52:44 PM

Not for me.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:52:08 PM

Make all the excuses you want but the problem with the Volt is that it costs too much and does not have enough range PERIOD
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:49:54 PM

The Volt is built out of a Cruze and we all know that car is a piece of crap like the Cobalt & Cavalier it replaces.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:47:38 PM

The VOLT sucks
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:46:09 PM

Cost to much and doesn't go far enough.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:45:45 PM

1991 Honda HF
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:42:58 PM

The car is too expensive and does not go far enough on a charge and still uses gasoline.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:38:54 PM

I think it's a great car. Too bad it's way out of my price range. Hopefully, like HDTVs, it will come down enough in price for me to afford one someday.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:38:05 PM

Still don't want one.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:37:23 PM

Here is a shocker: Greens in Clean Technica blast Fox . .

There is a lot to be said here about how they twist numbers by comparing apples to oranges . . 5 year cost of volt verus a heavy duty pickup truck . .

. . . besides the point of the 5 year cost comparisson line . . just about when the batteries will need to be replaced (3 to 5 year life?) . . .some estimates come in as high as $10,000 to replace batteries in an electric vehicle!

Yep - buyer beware.

I'm sure it will work for some folks - just watch the maintenance costs. . . Good luck!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:35:08 PM

you can't even listen to the radio without lowering the electric mileage significantly how dumb is that?
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:33:12 PM

Repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
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“Recent science supports the conclusion that oil is a naturally renewing resource. How many dinosaurs do you think there WERE anyway?”

Oh my, I suppose this comes from another devotee of Faux Noise. There is extremely limited scientific support for abiotic oil, which is probably what is being referred to here. Oil is derived from ancient plant material, as is coal. Although an occasional dinosaur might be in the mix, animal carcases are not a significant source of oil.

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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:32:18 PM

it was initially being built as a prototype car until the administration demanded that it go into production
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:31:29 PM

Just more redneck whineinhg.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:31:17 PM

All ready bin there on this article...
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:26:41 PM

Livedream - "Amusing article --

Even better is the logical and honest observation by GreenAstro --

"Escalade 5 Year Total Cost to Own $76,001
F-250 5 year Total Cost to Own $57,529
Volt 5 year Total Cost to Own $40,444

So, you are shortsighted if all you look at is the initial cost of the car, for the 5 years that most people own a car the Volt is cheaper.
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What load of bull feathers! LOL. Comparing Volt to an F-250 and an Escalade? REALLY?

Try this:
Total cost to own a Honda Accord for 5 years $41,219
Sticker price for a Honda Accord 2012 LX Premium $23,180.

And you'll get a lot more car with the Honda Accord.

Some people will do most anything to prop up this joke called the Volt.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:20:57 PM

What lies? Lies like that the Volt has only sold 2000 units after a trillion Federal dollars having been put into the project?
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:20:37 PM

agr964:
us4usa - You can't compare the cost of a car to an SUV or truck. They are totally different vehicles that serve different purposes. It's like justifying the cost effectiveness of a truck by saying it costs less to own than a bus.

Compared to the 5-year cost other similar vehicles, the volt is at best, a wash (until it comes time to replace the batteries).

If you read GreenAstro post that is what he/she did???

You could say the truck cost us money, I say the truck makes us money,
the SUV saves us money...
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:13:56 PM

balony
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:09:06 PM

Any guilt surfacing here?
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:07:42 PM

Do I smell another election issue? Billions wasted of technology that is "Over priced" and "Not ready yet"?
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