ashishpa

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:54:15 AM
This is great....
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jackson661

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:42:58 AM
Moving sun panels what a great idea.
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hasoan

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:34:48 AM
another broken link. sounds good though.
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:25:25 AM
Seems like it cost the taxpayers a lot of money and them absolutely nothing.
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rimpyCA

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:22:44 AM
thats cool
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:18:56 AM
lets get working on those batteries
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JuliusRex

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:18:32 AM
Great, another govt. funded boondoggle. I wonder how much local electricity 7.5 million buys. Easy to be cash flow positive when you are wasting other people's money...
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Quick68

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:18:18 AM
Yolo County didn't finance nothing. The taxpayers did.
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bobdec

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:15:30 AM
We could usemore solar powered plants
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speedys

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Utah
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:11:54 AM
Old news.
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IamWhoIam

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:06:50 AM
well Z51corvette, you don't live in California either and we are pinning a lot of hope on this. Go stick your head in an oil well.
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sluggopyle

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:04:39 AM
Here's the working link, although it doesn't say much more than the snippet above.
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:03:23 AM
Let's see if their optimism produces as expected. I hope, but won't hold my breath.
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NotmeuQc

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:03:17 AM
Interesting installation. It should be happening in more places, so we would be less dependant on the oil that keeps getting spilt
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YLHandyman

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:01:25 AM
With state and federal support they will be cash flow positive.
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djtdi

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:58:45 AM
Good for Yolo folks. Lets see how it goes!
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:58:29 AM
Now this is great information. People and companies doing something positive. Good fortune Yolo County!
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fuelconscious

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:54:54 AM
Hey its a great step forward
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VTROCK

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:54:01 AM
Let's build these alternative energy installations without Federal tax dollars subsidizing them.
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Ltdc

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:47:45 AM
Didn't I just hear that the governor declared a cash emergency in California. What are they doing making these loans?
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:41:58 AM
Yolo county has no out-of-pocket expense?! When do we get paid back?!
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mvosevich

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:40:59 AM
Hope this goes nationwide.
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DosEquis26

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:38:11 AM
some of my best friends are solar panels.
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:36:43 AM
would have liked to have read about it, but the link is broken
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DJRIO

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Miami
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:28:19 AM
junk bonds for solar generator.
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six_ball_man

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:27:10 AM
Bonds and loans are repaid, boys and girls. Subsidies to big oil is not.
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LoneGuy

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:24:37 AM
I have some solar stock. I hope I do better than I did with Photocom about 20 years ago. The Bush beer brothers from Colorado bought the company and that is the last I heard of it.
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Blue_Cruzer

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:23:58 AM
Sounds like a good deal for Yolo County.
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Bigwaynef

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:19:22 AM
Yeah, but how many jobs would there be for all sites...
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WhiteTreeIndian

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:17:13 AM
Might as well, wondering what the payback is.
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TheSicilian

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:16:57 AM
now this has possibilities
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:16:53 AM
Good for the, but they still have a $2.5 milliom loan.
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jay4

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:15:52 AM
Where some myopically see debt, I see investment, benefits and savings.
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Bonito

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:15:27 AM
GREAT! Let get them on every roof.
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CobraLeader

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:15:13 AM
... If they don't have any debt service, explain the $2,500,000 LOAN. ...
[Edited by: CobraLeader at 7/30/2010 12:16:03 AM EST]
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:09:43 AM
No wonder the current government is in such debt!
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Gary65

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:08:16 AM
Solar is definately the way to go.
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Bus561

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:02:54 AM
This should have been done years prior.
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GasitupJB

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:58:52 PM
This seems like a step in the direction for solar
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:58:46 PM
I hope it does prove to be economically viable.
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:55:08 PM
YeahBut - what is gummit doing to reduce carbon emissions in the war on terror?
Representative Gabrielle Giffords (D-Az) took Afghan Commander, General David Petraeus, to task for what she characterized as “willful disregard of the environmental impact of our war effort.” “There is no policy, no plan to minimize carbon emissions in our military activities,” Giffords charged. “Bombs are dropped and bullets are fired without considering the environmental impact.” Giffords insisted that she was “not demanding an immediate halt to current military operations in the Middle East. I’m just saying that battle plans should include an environmental impact assessment as a regular part of the process before attacks are launched.” She also suggested that the Army “put more emphasis on less environmentally damaging methods, like stabbing or clubbing enemy forces in order to minimize the carbon output.”
96 days until the November congressional elections.
[Edited by: N5EXY at 7/29/2010 11:56:04 PM EST]
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:43:28 PM
I wish we'd be moving faster in this direction
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Lizzylou

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:42:23 PM
Great news for Yolo County!
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debbiedl

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Akron
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:35:18 PM
I'd rather see the subsidies going on inthe states than to foreign governments.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:38:00 PM
If subsidy driven economics doesn't work......there would have never been a single nuclear power plant built.........And isn't subsidy-driven economics the lynchpin to the GOP economic plan, subsidize big business with taxpayer money they'll never have to pay back??????????
Those who decried the solar possibilities of NorCal are just blind or ignorant.... a good 90 percent of NorCal could easily use solar power generation for electricity....... That includes the valley corridor and the 395 route on the eastern side of the Sierras.....up to Alturas..... Even Yreka, Weed, Happy Valley, Weaverville, Hayfork, Clear Lake, Santa Rosa, Sebastopol, Cloverdale, Ukiah and many more places could easily use solar....
.... and the other 10 percent could use some solar generation to meet the local needs......
[Edited by: Gnusman53 at 7/29/2010 4:45:48 PM EST]
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SVmike

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California
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:23:58 PM
RoadKing: "The use of stimulus money is just a guarantee the money will be repaid."
No, I don't think so. The "stimulus" money is like gifts for some percentage of public projects. The remainder is being paid for with bonds.
"In California we have provisions where if you have an energy generating facility, and you're generating more than you're using, your meter runs backward."
Technically, no. You have two meters one for usage and one for generation. But ignoring that the law only allows for private generators to get credits up to some small limit, far below the 1 Megawatt installed. So unless they changed this recently the limit was something like 25 or 50 kilowatts.
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SVmike

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California
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:19:19 PM
Ken20D wrote: "Is the current electrical infrastructure designed to handle this extra power capacity? I think NOT! "The keywords here are "I think Not." IOW Ken does not think. One megawatt is a tiny blimp on the electrical grid. The typical large power plant is 500 - 1000 megawatts.
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:05:56 PM
Yep; sudsidize solar power with no FEMA backup plan when the Sun goes out
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rocky23hy

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 2:58:01 PM
Solar needs to compete on its own. Subsidy driven economics never works.
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RoadKing95

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 2:55:03 PM
I just don't get all the negativity toward this. The keyword is bonds. Anbody understand bonds? That's where governments get people to invest for a promised future return. The use of stimulus money is just a guarantee the money will be repaid. The stimulus is monies already set aside to stimulate the economy. The installation is on a local government building that uses electricity, funded by the taxpayers. So in the long run the taxpayers win. In California we have provisions where if you have an energy generating facility, and you're generating more than you're using, your meter runs backward. They credit you for the energy, and when you aren't you're credited toward what you have to buy. There's no need for more grid infrastructure, it uses the cabling already there.
And then we've got 1988MR2guy that says that in northern California the sun goes away from halloween til spring. I live in NorCal, and the sun shines yearround. Yolo Cnty is in Norcal. I can only surmise that 1988MR2guy doesn't see the sun because his head is placed somewhere the sun don't shine.
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